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Post by Conn on Thu 11 Jan 2018 - 10:29

Project finished

https://www.zeldix.net/t1604-illusion-of-gaia-msu-1


Ok, it's done Very Happy
The code was very sophisticated, needed to play through the complete game to map all events (that sucked). I hope I catched all, if not I am sure playtests will reveal.

Here's the themelist if anybody wants to create pcm:s:
Themelist:

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; THEME MAPPING
; hex dec tag                 loop youtube
; $00 00 mute                  n
; $01 01 Title                  y   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ95GUWak_E
; $02 02 World                  y   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjSK5TnpU2U
; $03 03 Town Theme 1(gulls)    y   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PopG6TAZq6M
; $04 04 Dark Space             y   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vJKkkiMUqA
; $05 05 Dead Gold Ship         y   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvxYivEFb-U
; $06 06 Town Theme 2(no gulls) y   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a3XBqa1fdA
; $07 07 Village                y   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7pqeqBw6kU  
; $08 08 Ankor Wat              y   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57hzpBiBdCE
; $09 09 Castle                 y   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY00EHElRWM
; $0A 10 Dungeon                y   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7laPa-4blQk
; $0B 11 Great Wall             y   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-HFQbs00DQ
; $0C 12 Larai Cliffs           y   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H7waJPFd78
; $0D 13 Meeting Mother         y   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyLJxUahjMY
; $0E 14 Shipwreck              y   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t38JSQuMbwk
; $0F 15 Sky Garden             y   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SSPeNRdXMM
; $10 16 Mu                     y   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOsT8R1POEA
; $11 17 Pyramid                y   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AywodvTQPuM
; $12 18 Boss Battle            y   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlWyDZVsGvM
; $13 19 Returned Memory        y   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CqZv5u8hgE
; $14 20 Final Battle           y   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0SNFbcEhtE
; $15 21 Ending 1               y   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHed9GSNXg8
; $16 22 Ending 2               y   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn5nC7ji-Qw

; SFX
; $17 23 Lola's Song            n   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9ncd-kILUk
; $18 24 Receive Item           n   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmBBroOjVQw
; $19 25 Wind  Melody           n   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72EChRq--d0
; $1A 26 Memory Melody          n   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_UIdgbzjME
; $1B 27 Wind SFX Angel Village y   https://youtu.be/4JDNMqtESpo?t=3872
; note: this is special since the first seconds the sfx plays, then it mutes since it is not repeated due to apu mute

; Not needed (native sfx is played):
; $1C 28 Transformation         n   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kKbq8XfjpQ
; $1D 29 Phenomenon             n   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLuk9smhcFw
; $1E 30 Unused Title           n   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=679TIf9MlkA

; Not known
; $1F 31 Temple Song            n   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuA3CzC8hzE

; $40 keep current music playing

Oddities:
- Ghostship: music changes a lot of times, I hope I mapped all correctly (also when changing between the two screens).

- Native Village: music switches after pig made suicide and you re-enter from the 05 Dead Gold Ship to 07 Village  theme. I could only map 1 theme and decided to have it only play village theme for consistency

- Wind screen in Angel Village dungeon:
https://youtu.be/4JDNMqtESpo?t=3872
there is one screen with wind blowing sfx, I needed to make a hardcore apu mute. The side effect is that the wind blow will play but does not repeat, it will stop after 2 seconds. Therefore I mapped a theme $1b=27 to be played in this screen. When creating this wind blow pcm, you need to check how it interferes with the 2 seconds of native wind play. If it sounds too terrible I'll make more efforts  to mute the native sfx. I recommend making it a bit louder to cover the native sfx, exact syncing it is of no avail I think since sd2snes has a play delay.

- I could not find this theme in the game:
; $1F 31 Temple Song            n   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuA3CzC8hzE
Anybody who can shed light here?

Indispensable cheat!
Use cheat code 7e0642-xx to switch between screens, as soon the screen turns black, disable the cheat again!.
E.g., if you are in south cape overworld, cheat with 7e0642-73 to get into the wind blowing screen (the oddity mentioned above). The numbers are pretty straight forwarding, so 01 is southcape while later numbers are chronological stations on your journey.

BTW: the room number table (the room number is the same you cheat with 7e0642) corresponds to the music played in this screen, so with the asm, you can virtually get in every screen another theme, like every town has an own theme, if somebody wants to play around or make a plus patch).


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Post by Conn on Thu 11 Jan 2018 - 18:53

If somebody is going to make the pcm:s here is some help:

For example pyramid is hex $11, dec 17, so your pcm should be:
iog_msu1-17.pcm

There are a some remastered tracks on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXNIZ7_B8_M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUK-ndMdh5A
.... I hope awesome epic themes to substitute all are found.

More or less complete orchestrated soundtrack:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1LGSmSyBr8&list=PLoVSxyoC2-k6JSY94T1PRNVuKIRMRDtx9&index=14
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Post by daniloroxette on Sun 21 Jan 2018 - 16:23

Hey, Conn. Thanks for this patch of IoG. It's a wonderful game.

I played it a couple times, i'm not an expert, but I made a looping pcm set with your suggestions and another findings. I think it will need improvements. I got no save states to verify every track. I tried the cheat code you mentioned, but I only reach to south cape (01) and to that room (73) with the wind/water SFX.

You said you didn't find the 31.pcm (Temple Song) on the game, but it seems like a copy of 25.pcm for me.

I didn't find replacements for 22.pcm (Ending 2 aka Rebirth) and 28.pcm/29.pcm sfx. I used the original spc like themes for this ones.



I created a google sheet to organize the job and credit every artist/song: https://goo.gl/NDELWN

Download ILLUSION OF GAIA ORCHESTRATED pcms via Google Drive (550 MB)

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Post by Conn on Sun 21 Jan 2018 - 16:34

Again, much thanks, I'll check out later Smile
Regarding improvements, you talk about pcm not the patch, right?
The patch was very sophisticated and I hope I did code all stuff.

The sfx like tunes are alright to have them spc, as for 22, I'll check YouTube later whether I find a good one Wink

Try the cheat in a house maybe it's a bit tinkering, oh and 28/29 cannot be replaced anyways. It will play the ingame tune.
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Post by Conn on Sun 21 Jan 2018 - 19:50

Ok, I tested some themes, but many sound too much alike the original spc, like the town, when listening to Dark Space (track 4) I could hear no difference at all (but I couldn't find a remastered theme for this neither for 22 Sad ).
Maybe you could use for the second town (6) another theme like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXNIZ7_B8_M

Then the wind theme (27) is unfortunately too silent, there's a big cut between the 2 seconds of original spc and then the pcm... make the pcm best the same volume (or louder) to cover the spc from start...

Theme 31 and 25 sound somehow quite different to me... but well. Let's see if somebody finds out one day.

But the biggest problem I have when listening to the tracks is that they resemble often the original spc somehow... could you take all themes from this source (if available of course):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1LGSmSyBr8&list=PLoVSxyoC2-k6JSY94T1PRNVuKIRMRDtx9&index=14
instead of the alternative source you took also themes from? Maybe the alternative source resembles too much the original spc somehow that I got this impression that your set is a bit too spc-like... you can also make 2 sets if that suits better for you Wink

But in any case really awesome work, thanks so much Very Happy
I wait for a possible corrected set (possibly replace some themes and wind thing) before I shift it to the database...
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Post by daniloroxette on Mon 22 Jan 2018 - 9:31

Nice analisys. Thank you. I told you it would need improvements.  Laughing

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3 and 6

Well, I got all the DJ Super Raveman tracks as you suggested on that playlist, but I didn't use the Title Screen (1) and Frejia (3) (6) songs. This two are already the track you suggested back there (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXNIZ7_B8_M by Plasma3Music Remixes). I prefer this one rather then the version of DJ Super Raveman.

Since the difference between 3 and 6 in the originals is just the gulls sounds, I inserted the gulls on the Plasma3Music version to the track 3 and leave it off for the track 6. If I undestood it well, your suggestion is to have 2 differents arrangements for the town songs? One for 3 & another for 6?

I think that of all the tracks, the Plasma3Music version is, until now, the best song in terms of orchestral job.

So, what should we replace in 3 and/or 6?

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27 - wind

I really need to play this part by myself to understand whats going on.  Surprised
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Temple song and another mistakes.

I always get confusing when there's a copy around.  Confused  I didn't listen to the songs mapped by the game, but by the links you gave. Actually, the links of 25 and 26 are pretty the same for me. And 31 is different, indeed. I made a mistake putting the temple song on 26.

Another mistake is that 20 and 21 on my first upload aren't the ones that I prepared, but the SPCs.

And I'll delete the unused tracks.

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I used the SourJovis versions in 6 tracks (1, 4, 10, 23, 24 and 26) and I agree that his versions are very close of the original SPCs. Soon, I'll replace 1 with DJ Super Raveman version and wait for another suggestions.
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Post by daniloroxette on Mon 22 Jan 2018 - 9:36

I made the google sheet editable by everyone. So, if anyone else wants to suggest another replacement, if it gets easier, just overwrite the "new theme" column with a new link.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qQWD6EqwxSZdRfawUBQiX-se-kKwSLyeykfuIc5OAVA/edit#gid=0

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Post by Conn on Mon 22 Jan 2018 - 11:17

Nice your sheet makes it all so much easier Very Happy

Here's my suggestion:
01, title:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4RIkiWmBZU&index=11

14, shipwreck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfg1fKvDkE0
(maybe you use this already, the video is missing in  your list)

Couldn't find any better solution for your other choices (nice were 4, 10, 22) but these simply seem to not exist, so I'd say... so your list is as perfect as it could be Very Happy

What do you think about this attached wind theme (27)? Does 7e0642-73 work for you?
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Post by daniloroxette on Wed 24 Jan 2018 - 23:45

All right, I updated the .rar file (still the same link of my first post)
[I'll update the video later]


Updates:


  • Track 1 (Title Screen) was set to DJ Super Raveman's version
  • Track 2 (Beautiful World) fade in was removed
  • Track 6 (Town Theme) was set to DJ Super Raveman's version
  • Track 20 (Final Batle) fixed (SPC to the Darion Andromalius' version)
  • Track 21 (Ending 1) fixed (SPC to DJ Super Raveman's version)
  • Track 25 (Wind Melody) fixed (Wrong DJ Raveman's version to SourJovis' version)*
  • Track 27 (Wind SFX) modified **
  • Deleted uneeded tracks (28 and 29)

*I've finally find out that DJ Raveman was the responsible for my confusion. He made a version of Temple Song and named it as 'Wind Melody' (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O22xwbdU_Rc).

**Conn, I made the SFX you sended as loud as possible without clipping. In the 1st version, I used a waterfall SFX because the screen shows waterfalls. I don't remember the scene quite well. It is really a wind noise?

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Still needs a version of:

Track 22 (Ending 2 aka Rebirth) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn5nC7ji-Qw


It will be nice if we could find better versions of:
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Post by Conn on Thu 25 Jan 2018 - 5:48

Perfect, thanks a lot Very Happy
I now posted it in the database:
https://www.zeldix.net/t1604-illusion-of-gaia-msu-1

I don't think good substitutes can be found for the other themes. Really nice were 4 and 10 (I don't care of the sfx like themes).

The wind msu matches the original sfx 1:1 (I took it from Seiken Densetsu 3, looks like IoG has stolen it or way round Ohmygod )
I just tested, you did it perfect: there is no clip or whatever.
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Post by daniloroxette on Thu 25 Jan 2018 - 18:10

Thank you too.

Razz (Conn)
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Post by julayla on Tue 30 Jan 2018 - 15:08

Great, thanks for this

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Post by thepsynergist on Sun 4 Feb 2018 - 15:31

If you guys need anymore music, I completed a remaster of the entire soundtrack, a few years ago, and have been pioneering to have it be used for an MSU-1 hack.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLisRpuQKxsdOoS41xSVYDhe67POHPYtk-
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Post by Conn on Sun 4 Feb 2018 - 17:09

Oh nice, can you give the direct links to your versions of
4 - Dark Space - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHB3XHtrDo4
10 - Dungeon - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so7O1oJXtZo
(you named them differently and I am short on time right now, will examine later in detail Very Happy )

I point daniloroxette here via pm, that's awesome, thanks Spin


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Post by daniloroxette on Sun 4 Feb 2018 - 17:09

Hi, thepsynergist.

Nice you're here too. Smile

thepsynergist wrote:I completed a remaster of the entire soundtrack, a few years ago, and have been pioneering to have it be used for an MSU-1 hack.


I didn't understand that. Your remastered songs of Illusion of Gaia is on another MSU-1 pack? Is it avaliable? Or you made the remasterization with the intention to use it now in the msu-1 hack?

If so, do you still have the uncompressed files?
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Post by Conn on Sun 4 Feb 2018 - 17:13

If I understood correctly, these are the remastered versions, and we are free to use them for msu:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y1MIj2IIEQ&list=PLisRpuQKxsdOoS41xSVYDhe67POHPYtk-

They are not available as msu pcm yet, but we can make them (or better you Razz I'm not skilled in that category)
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Post by daniloroxette on Sun 4 Feb 2018 - 17:37

Great.

I listened the playlist. Nice job, thepsynergist. Thanks.

Unfortunately, there's no new version for 4 - Dark Space (Space Beyond Time). But there is for 10 - Dungeon (Descent into Darkness)  and 22 - Ending 2 (Rebirth)! (how did we miss it on the searching?)

Well, we can improve the current pack with this two new versions.
Very Happy

thepsynergist, if you want to, I could work on a second pack with your versions only. It would be better if we get the uncompressed source files. And, if you enjoy and think that's possible, you could remaster the missing one:

"Dark Space" aka "Space Beyond Time".

The MSU-1 hack also allow us to change this songs:
23 - Lola's Melody
24 - Receive Important Item
25 - Wind Melody
26 - Melody of Memories


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Post by Conn on Sun 4 Feb 2018 - 17:52

Just awesome!
Too bad 04 dark space.isn't part but maybe thepsynergist just forget to upload.
With all the new tracks I'd suggest updating your original set with theme 10 and make a second set with all the new tracks only, so we have 2 sets Smile.
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Post by thepsynergist on Sun 4 Feb 2018 - 22:28

Oops, how'd I forget that track (Dark Space).



Here's the download link for all the .wav files. I'll work on a loop sample table if i've time (work tomorrow >.<)

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1moMioEyChw1O9pKkl3-p9QmiEL_N6Yob


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Post by Conn on Mon 5 Feb 2018 - 5:31

Great, thanks Smile
Then there is only one last point, which I leave to you however, the theme for town is addressed by 2 pcm:s,
- the south cape (first town) with sea gulls
- the other towns.
I do not know whether dani will use your town theme for both, take the one from the first package for the new one or whatever. Looking on his theme maps he intends to use your town theme for both, which is fine I think. If you want another theme for cape town however, please also provide it.
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Post by thepsynergist on Mon 5 Feb 2018 - 10:46

Unfortunately, it's been years since I made these, so I no longer have the version in FL Studio with the seagulls, so I'd have to remake it from scratch, which is fine, however, it'd obviously not sound the same as the version with seagulls.  >.<


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Post by Conn on Mon 5 Feb 2018 - 15:54

No worries, I think it's just fine if your pack uses the same track for both towns, thanks for your contribution!
I hope dani has time to make your new pack soon Very Happy (are you going to replace in pack 1 tracks 4 and 10)?
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Post by daniloroxette on Wed 7 Feb 2018 - 10:24

Hello, thepsynergist and Conn.

I believe that only next month I will be able to dedicate to the edition of the pcms. Sad

thepsynergist, I downloaded the .wav files. Thank U. The song of the city is without the seagulls. What I thought is to add them to the song, just like I did in the first package. I do not understand why you said you do not have the version without the seagulls. I listened to youtube and it also has no gulls.

But it will be great. As soon as I make the pcms of this new package, I will update the songs from the first package as well.

See you later.

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Post by Conn on Wed 7 Feb 2018 - 13:10

Sounds awesome!
I exhibit patience Sad
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so I no longer have the version in FL Studio without the seagulls
guess he meant with seagulls rather than without
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