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Post by Puzzledude Sat 2 Dec 2017 - 18:12

Yes, this is how some view MSU-1 hacking:


yep...another pointless MSU-1 BGM remix pack romhack...

the "music pack" for this game is 166.65MB in size and the rom hack is only usable with 1 emulator (bsnes).

and i bet all of the tracks in said music pack are nothing but a bunch of remixes you gathered from across the internet. nothing "CD Quality"

why not just spare yourself the effort needed for such pointless hacks by posting these "music packs" in a forum thread when the hacks aren't even needed at all? just stick the music files in a media player and have the audio from the emulator you're using muted. pretty much the same results.


when i say most or all of the music used for these MSU-1 romhacks are remix tracks, i'm not assuming anything.

just look through the credits sections of each romhack. reorchetration after...that's not even a real word. it is quite literally nothing but a gathering of remixed tracks for each game.

except maybe that rock'n'roll racing game. i'm not sure about that one since it seems to require the user to jump through extra hoops by having them setup and sort out the music themselves.

also, the music pack for Mega Man X has been taken down.

"The file you requested has been removed from MediaFire for a violation of our Terms of Service."

and the chrono trigger romhack's readme actually tells you to "Buy Chrono Symphony album in FLAC format (http://www.thechronosymphony.com/)." (is that even allowed here?)

who in their right mind would do that just for a romhack?

sorry but i really don't think i'm overreacting when i say virtually any media player would be a far better alternative to these romhacks and the amount of work they require to setup in comparison.

edit: i'll just stick to using VLC media player with the audio in whatever emulator i'm using muted. less time and effort required for pretty much the same results.

i could really care less about this since, as i pointed out before, the end result could still be achieved by simply using a media player. well, maybe not if your emulating on something that doesn't have or can't use a media player but if that's the case then whatever you're using better have a large hard drive to hold these bloated audio files.

this is especially true since, as nesrocks pointed out, the resulting audio quality isn't necessarily better as it depends on the tracks used. so the end result is entirely subjective at best.

going through the trouble of converting all these audio files to some obscure format hardly any media player can even play, let alone recognize, just to change the BGM in a video game... this just seems like a complete waste of time no matter how i look at it.

*starts up Gunstar Heroes in Kega Fusion with the audio muted and loads the "Be Aggressive! - A Gunstar Heroes Tribute Album" album in VLC Media Player*

there, same end result with little to no effort and other steps needed. takes 5, maybe 10 seconds to do.


PS don't forget to use VLC player, while putting your emulator sound to mute, apparently that's the same as MSU.
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Post by Conn Sat 2 Dec 2017 - 18:30

Yes, if pausing to switch tracks and muting sfx is the preferred way of playing with cd quality, thumbs up Smile
most valued info is that mega man x pcm:s are down, I notified ds via pm
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Post by Puzzledude Sun 3 Dec 2017 - 6:28

Yes, if pausing to switch tracks and muting sfx is the preferred way of playing with cd quality, thumbs up
I think this is a joke, but some people actually do this.

most valued info is that mega man x pcm:s are down, I notified ds via pm
Yes probably due to copyright issues.

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Post by Puzzledude Sun 3 Dec 2017 - 6:29

Before I also didn't like MSU, since it was so much work and a lot of setting up ... until qwerty made support for it in snes9x! It's a different story now.
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Post by DarkShock Sun 3 Dec 2017 - 12:45

Oh yeah I got this guy commenting on one of my videos, I find really funny it didn't consider it CD quality because it doesn't come from an official CD release Very Happy
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Post by qwertymodo Sun 3 Dec 2017 - 13:01

Which MMX files got removed? The Guitar Playthrough packs? Those are all available for free on his Bandcamp, so if worse comes to worst, I can just post my .json files and people can convert them themselves like with Chrono Trigger.
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Post by DarkShock Sun 3 Dec 2017 - 13:18

qwertymodo wrote:Which MMX files got removed? The Guitar Playthrough packs? Those are all available for free on his Bandcamp, so if worse comes to worst, I can just post my .json files and people can convert them themselves like with Chrono Trigger.

It's the first pack that TheRetromancer did with PSP tracks inside it. I should link it to the Guitar Playthrough pack instead
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Post by qwertymodo Sun 3 Dec 2017 - 13:46

Ah, that makes more sense if they were OST files. I'm surprised the Link Between Worlds pack hasn't met the same fate.
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Post by Conn Mon 4 Dec 2017 - 21:40

It happens if anybody links to the pcm packs in a youtube comment:


There have been some issues with linking to the pcm files directly at youtube, it happened to castlevania and MegaMan X3 that the links to the google drive cloud was posted in the comments, and Kurrono got a DMCA.

The reason is that youtube is allowed to let people watch the videos online, but not let the content download for private use. E.g., some youtube-mp3 sites recently had to close.
My best guess is that an algorithm continuing checking the comments, and if a cloud link is present, automatically a DMCA is activated - which probably is in most cases right since the rom or full album to download is linked or something. However, our pcm files are also affected by this algorithm, so please only post the link to zeldix, but not the direct  cloud link.
So if you re-upload the pcm:s to another server, make sure the links are not at youtube anywhere.

Edit:
I tested most of the pcm download links:
-@Qwerty: all your owncloud links are down for Chrono Trigger (patch, video, audio intro). I can only download the alternative tracks.

Oh and has anybody the pcm sets for Mega Man X somewhere backup:ed? I want to backup every msu project so files don't get lost due to... issues like this
Edit: Problem solved, Kurrono helped out with MMX, it's dl-able in the MMX database now.
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