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Post by Conn Sun 28 Jun 2015 - 5:29

yes, the intro is awesome. But maybe the dr should also tell you something. E.g., nothing in your games says anything about your mission, why you have to collect the rings. What is the final goal (yes, change your fate and having alternate endings dependent on how good you are doing so). Why do we have to defeat Ganon, what's his evil plan? Does the rift expand and all universes merge creating a black hole erasing all existence...?
The dr and other characters should know that all ^^
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Post by Founder Sun 28 Jun 2015 - 8:26

...

Not long ago an evil spirit made it out of the rift and is trying to bring chaos to many parallel universes..."fortunately for us, legend has it that twenty rings of power and three equally sized golden triangles were made by the gods in order to banish any evil. Your quest to find those rings and golden triangles begins here [Name]!


The doctor already says something like that. Unless you missed it.

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Post by Founder Sun 28 Jun 2015 - 9:46

God damn tired today gotta say! Thats what happens when I sleep for 3 hours before going back to work...but enough whinning. I also started revamping the space areas yesterday night and added sprites in them as there were none. Man this is surely going to be done this year for sure. This was my motivation post of the day.

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Post by Conn Sun 28 Jun 2015 - 11:51

I hope you can succeed in the current velocity, your posts are promising ^^ Just like you I think I also move in the background after accomplishing my 2 big tasks:
(1) bszelda msu1 project, which should make progress soon
(2) Conker, but here's only the msu left for me (and maybe some small adjustments). Do you have the list already?
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Post by Founder Sun 28 Jun 2015 - 15:58

I'll finish the list later 2night or this week ( Im off three days every mother fucking week Very Happy starting tommorow morning.

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Post by Mr.x Mon 29 Jun 2015 - 18:11

The theme for Ganon's Lair


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Post by Conn Mon 29 Jun 2015 - 18:17

one question here about the proceedings. I just wonder why you make spc music. MSU plays cd quality music so we can play litterally anything (maybe not in dolby surround... but...).

I'm just confused. Do you make the spc to replace the native spc? As far I know nobody here is able to do that...

anyways, as spc your music is awesome in any case!
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Post by Mr.x Mon 29 Jun 2015 - 18:23

Words from our almighty SepH
હેદρમ™ wrote:
Erockbrox wrote:...and if the music was created for the snes then i dont see why we need msu1 because we could just insert it like a regular snes music in a regular snes game.
Simply put Erock, to keep the same spirit as playing a 16-bit game in our teenage years, to also expend the number of tracks for a better experience overall and finally there's the voiceovers not possible on regular snes carts. The hack will release with Mr.x music pack but then I'm sure we'll see sixteen more packs from other users Erock, it just won't be us to avoid legal issues per say ;-)

EDIT: In addition we have not found someone to insert the SPC tracks anyway. If you know anyone who can insert the SPCs, do tell.

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Post by Conn Mon 29 Jun 2015 - 19:15

mh, I don't think there are really copyright issues. I think all music which you can access via youtube is free (my suggested sadame, game of thrones, etc.). Youtube checks every uploaded video to contain copyrighted music and mutes the video if detected (various star wars themed videos went down that road)..

Also, I suggested SePH to set up a MS life cloud account. In mine I did not give my real name. Anybody could host the pcm:s and SePH gives just a download link in the readme. I cannot imagine that being illegal. We should exploit the msu and not restrict ourself here! If the tracks aren't obviously illegal tracks (star wars, lady gaga) I could also do the hosting.

Anyways. You know I was capable to spc tracks into BS Zelda. My skills doing so is quite limited. I can do this but you'll loose all ingame sfx, so my technique was possible for your remastered FT theme (for what I still adore you), which plays in the intro where there is naturally no sfx, but for normal playing, having no sound effects, it is of not avail.

The only possibility I see is that somebody gets into HM music editor. Before we started with the much more powerful msu, we already gave it a (successless) shot:
https://www.zeldix.net/t154-the-music-tinkering-thread
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Post by Mr.x Mon 29 Jun 2015 - 20:42

Keep in mind that I am already over halfway done making the soundtrack. I've spent countless hours working on them so I'd rather not see them trashed. As SepH said before, he wants a soundtrack that fits the game and my soundtrack fits SePH's vision.

The best solution here is that we create a custom music engine that imports SPCs into the ROM. Instead of trying to study the Zelda music engine, it would be much easier to work with a music engine tailored to our needs. Now this job isn't directed towards you Conn but to anyone with the skill to do it. I say we take this up to the ROMhacking.net help wanted ads. If we can get my music to play in the actual ROM, I am open to an MSU soundtrack that uses its full potential.

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Post by Conn Tue 30 Jun 2015 - 4:25

I can completely understand that you'd won't like to have your efforts for naught... in this case I'd suggest 2 sets, one complete remastered legal set (yours) and one "grey" set Wink In f-zero we have in the meanwhile 3 different sets...

I cannot do the spc stuff. I'm absolutely no musician. Doing the bszelda stuff was lot of work and research and the coding part was horrible. I think the HM music editor really is the best choice here if anybody could get into it.
As for help from outside: it is probably best to ask the guy who did the spc injection for smw, so smwcentral might be better than romhacking... but out of my 12 years experience: chances for finding somebody here are almost zero.
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Post by Founder Tue 30 Jun 2015 - 8:54

Conn wrote:I think all music which you can access via youtube is free. Youtube checks every uploaded video to contain copyrighted music and mutes the video if detected (various star wars themed videos went down that road).
I wish life was that easy. Acually, some channels on youtube have bought the licenses fee to be able to display copyrighted content. I can't simply take the Game of Thrones theme and distribute it because I know somebody made that song and they are selling it in the original soundtrack even so its a nono. The only music packs I could create in this case would either be composed of royalty free music which you can find on the net or the music pack by Mr.x. The only difference here is that Mr.xmusic isnt available elsewhere because its composed specifically for the hack.

@Mr.x: Keep going! That music track reminds me of a castlevania game and that last part would be when you're near Dracula's chamber lol

It sounds just like a snes game would which is exactly the style of music I'm intending to have.

I was generous when I said sixteen more music packs, but yeah, I'm sure well get a pack that has even Conker music in it (if they get the rights from robin beanland to distribute his songs)... and people adding that resident evil music for the mansion, it just wont be us.

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Post by Conn Tue 30 Jun 2015 - 13:58

As much I like Mr.x's work I'd also love to see a set which enables the complete potential of msu-1!

I think 2 packs are enough and advisable. One completely legal and one "illegal". We could even add Star wars intro into it Wink I think there are several possibilities where you can set up an anonymous cloud - and somehow a link to this must be provided. I think we will find a possibility here.


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Post by Erockbrox Tue 30 Jun 2015 - 17:50

I too just want to say F*** it and just use the star wars theme.
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Post by Founder Wed 1 Jul 2015 - 8:12

Conn wrote:I can completely understand that you'd won't like to have your efforts for naught... in this case I'd suggest 2 sets, one complete remastered legal set (yours) and one "grey" set Wink
Alright Alright we can work something out.

Mr.x pack - For purists, this is how you're supposed to experience Hyrulian Tail, the first time at least. The music was composed specifically for the hack to fully immerse yourself in playing a 16-bit title just like you were doing in your teenage years. 16-bit music for a 16-bit title!

Alternate pack - For those who want to experience the full benefits of an msu-1 soundtrack in full cd quality. Contains an epic ensemble of free tracks to immerse you well enough into the game and is refreshing all the same compared to hearing the same tracks over and over like in the original game!

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Post by Mr.x Wed 1 Jul 2015 - 10:10

Sounds like a good compromise. I would suggest using some classical music like Egyptian March Opus 335 by Johann Strauss that should be public domain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF5ARgEzYF4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy19mPaTA44

In addition to Toccata and Fugue:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho9rZjlsyYY

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Post by Conn Wed 1 Jul 2015 - 12:12

Nice, now that we have all artist freedom SePH could make a list of themes.
My suggestion so far

06 - Star wars (intro)
? end 02 Sadame
? candyland ersure, always
? end 01 game of thrones
? end 03 or 04 Lord of ring theme

...
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Post by Founder Thu 2 Jul 2015 - 22:50

Thanks for the suggestions to both of you, I'll do everything in my power to deliver a good and free ''grey'' side pack to satisfy others needs. I'll get you that msu-1 list as soon as possible  (-:

In other news, we've got a new modern world building joining the likes of the Pervy Goron's Stripclub and the Zora's Casino....




..ladies and gents... I present to you...

The Kokiri Milk Bar!

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Otherwise known as the infamous ''Korova Milk Bar'' as seen in one of Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece movies... A Clockwork Orange! I know it was inspired by some novel, but the actual bar's lettering and art came from the movie and it was grandiose at the time. Baroque art in a dystopian land.

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Fun fact: The Conker sprite in the title screen holding a glass of milk is dressed exactly as Alex, the main protagonist in the movie.

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Post by Conn Fri 3 Jul 2015 - 2:58

*lol, maybe you can derivate that to something prérvert, too. like "Kokiri Milk Bar" and below the childish stroke Milk you write "Beer" or  "schnapps".

I know for a fact that Conker gets always drunken so he should love this bar ^^ also a speeking beer glass major role in Conker, doesn't it? If you ask a customer inside they could tell that the milk bar went almost bankrupt until we got a tipp from a certain dr to sell beer instead. Now we cannot get rescued from customers...

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Post by Founder Fri 3 Jul 2015 - 8:01

Thats a nice idea actually! Yeah I'll do just that.

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Post by Conn Fri 3 Jul 2015 - 18:49

To round up the image of this bar you should set the drug dealer in a corner of the bar (maybe secretly hidden if he sells the apple of eden, or fairy powder as well).

I think your latest plans for him was to sell marihuanna and beer as substitute for red/blue potion, so he fits perfectly inside this bar Embarassed

Any news from MoN about the hdma stuff you wanted to have implemented?
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Post by Founder Fri 3 Jul 2015 - 19:16

Keep going with all those crazy ideas Very Happy

No haven't got a reply from MoN, because I simply forgot about it and never pm'd him about it. Now, where was that thread again &@%&?! I tried looking, but haven't found my post.

Motivation message of the day:

SePH: - ''I won't cut my hair until the hack is finished and released!!!''

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Post by Erockbrox Fri 3 Jul 2015 - 21:29

હેદρમ™ wrote:Motivation message of the day:

SePH: - ''I won't cut my hair until the hack is finished and released!!!''

or shave either!!!
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Post by Founder Fri 3 Jul 2015 - 21:47

Stop giving me good ideas!

In other news, the current state of the space areas...



Feels less empty now. %&$@!!! at those pesky big spike blocks!

Some notes:
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1- The items graphics got bugged again, dunno how but it has been like that for a long time now. I isolated two roms here, one with the item graphics good and the one right after that that has item graphics glitched. I'm awaiting to finish everything else before fixing this bug because it keeps reapearing overtime. Similar bug as my specific bug I had since 2009 that Puzzledude once fixed.

2- The bombos spell graphics are glitched, but thats because I changed the graphics that are loaded, I'll fix this soon enough on my own no worries.

3- Conker's flute animation isnt done obviously, so are his swimming animations.

4- The space dungeon enemies graphics are glitched since I havent made the spritesets for that dungeon yet, it was more like a copy/paste of puzzledude dungeons, but that too is easy to fix once I'll enter into my DUNGEONS RUSH MODE frenezy Very Happy

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Post by Erockbrox Sat 4 Jul 2015 - 0:38

just emailed gamemaker about that request of yours!
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