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Post by wizzrobemaster on Wed 30 Dec 2015 - 11:50

how does traveling between light and dark work? can the magic mirror be programmed to transition between both worlds freely (i.e. return to the dark world on any square and vise versa)?

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Post by Puzzledude on Wed 30 Dec 2015 - 13:49

Yes you can. It's a one byte change and it should be in the compendium or in Vital hex addresses. If you change this byte, you can warp from light to dark or back anywhere, But this will lead to bugs (you can come off screen). Not recomended to implement.

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Post by wizzrobemaster on Wed 30 Dec 2015 - 14:08

so that is why the warp is only one way. what about warping back to the previous destination in a dungeon (e.g. returning to the dungeon entrance from boss room and back to the boss room?)

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Re: magic mirror upgrade

Post by SunGodPortal on Sat 2 Jan 2016 - 15:11

I have this idea:
Using the magic mirror to warp between the light / dark world versions of the same dungeon.

The problem is, there really is no dark/light world version of any dungeon. The dungeon system is independant of overworlds. It's on it's own grid. Cool concept though.
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Post by SePH on Sat 2 Jan 2016 - 16:31

Well you could make one big dungeon split in two, one part in the light world and the other in the dark world and then hook the mirror so that in that dungeon, it warps you back and forth between the two.

You'd then need to assign each of the light world rooms to their dark world ones.

A nice idea but definately advanced stuff!

I would love to have such a dungeon but I only have one overworld Razz

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Post by wizzrobemaster on Sat 2 Jan 2016 - 16:43

the way this would work is similar to the split dungeon layout that desert palace and skull woods have. the problem is however that you would need to design a map that will display both. oracle of ages had mermaid's cave which was a past and present dungeon. if anything it was a better concept than the spirit temple in which the layout hardly changed.

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Post by SePH on Sat 2 Jan 2016 - 16:57

The Parallel Tower in PW worked similarly.

You'd have to climb it three times in two overworlds and it had rooms part of that same dungeon spread accross the overworlds.

If we would have had a miror to warp between the two, who knows, maybe we would have to climb it less times! :-P

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Post by wizzrobemaster on Sat 2 Jan 2016 - 17:46

what about warp tiles? can they work the same way as they did in the Gameboy titles?

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Post by SePH on Sat 2 Jan 2016 - 18:06

I'll quote Euclid here:

I believe I had that nearly ready to go in Parallel Tower 6F but never bothered to implement due to HM being stupid and ran out of object space.

The asm itself is quite simple, because X and Y coordinates within each room ($A0) are controlled with $20-$23. So in effect all it is:
if top left room (via X/Y check) - use location A, top right room use location B, bottom left room use location C else location D.

^^I hope that's how the game boy titles works because I don't remember :/

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Post by wizzrobemaster on Sun 3 Jan 2016 - 13:12

hyrule magic has an unused light world tile. what was interesting about ages was that the time travel system was more accessible than the dark world where you can time travel almost anywhere except for the lost sea.

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