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Re: MSU-1 Secret of Mana

Post by Colines on Mon 25 May 2015 - 3:02

kurrono wrote:i got those 3 pcms....

hehe, so am I xp

here they are, the 4 missing tracks for Super Mario World:

http://1drv.ms/1Rgh8v2

The Bowser Fight 1 is exactly the same as Bowser Fight 2, believe me. So I just copy-paste ;D

Also, I took a few other SFX tracks from Kiddo's music pack and fixed them by removing digital silence and adjusting the length.

You know... I'd add Mario voices to some tracks, but I remembered Luigi is in game too xD
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Re: MSU-1 Secret of Mana

Post by Conn on Mon 25 May 2015 - 6:57

That was fast, thank you Smile I forwarded your message to Kiddo and hope he will update his new_sets.zip
Until then I gave your link in the readme of:
http://bszelda.zeldalegends.net/stuff/Con/smw_msu1.zip

kurrono, your unfortunate that I am in a life phase where I do not have time to neither teach you asm nor develop any new asm hacks. I advice to be patient. F-Zero is a popular game and chances are high that we see a msu hack for this in a not so far future.
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Re: MSU-1 Secret of Mana

Post by Conn on Mon 25 May 2015 - 20:16

There's one small bug in the msu of secret of mana I just noticed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlvc8v3MlRE
at e.g, 47:55 the track is Looping 3 times; I think this can be avoided with $2007-01
Dunno whether there are other tracks which should not Loop

I think this code must be addressed:
Code:
195    // Play the song and add repeat if needed
196    //jsr TrackNeedLooping
197    lda #$03
198    sta MSU_AUDIO_CONTROL
If this track is played: lda #$01 instead lda #$03
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Re: MSU-1 Secret of Mana

Post by DarkShock on Tue 26 May 2015 - 8:56

Colines wrote:Not sure if anyone already did that, but the music pack I downloaded had no loop at all built in the tracks, and when DarkShock requested a soul willing to do the task, I accepted the challenge.

Well, I hope the loop points be good enough, feel free to report any errors or even suggest better loop points ;D

http://1drv.ms/1Enkcfv

Thank you for your effort, I'll check that tonight Smile
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Re: MSU-1 Secret of Mana

Post by DarkShock on Tue 26 May 2015 - 8:58

Conn wrote:There's one small bug in the msu of secret of mana I just noticed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlvc8v3MlRE
at e.g, 47:55 the track is Looping 3 times; I think this can be avoided with $2007-01
Dunno whether there are other tracks which should not Loop

I think this code must be addressed:
Code:
195    // Play the song and add repeat if needed
196    //jsr TrackNeedLooping
197    lda #$03
198    sta MSU_AUDIO_CONTROL
If this track is played: lda #$01 instead lda #$03

I didn't check which track wasn't looping because in GinBunBun they were all looping tracks. Now that Colines added missing jingle, I should do that subroutine next time I look into it.
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Re: MSU-1 Secret of Mana

Post by HappyKool on Tue 26 May 2015 - 10:47

Hello All DarkShock  MSU-1 Secret of mana is very cool and run no problem with multiples roms in modfied xml  very good the soundtrack is definitive or modified later ?

thank you for your project  i go take real pleasure a replay SoM


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Re: MSU-1 Secret of Mana

Post by HappyKool on Tue 26 May 2015 - 10:58

Conn, no be hurry for your projects at all it must be done with time and the fun does not make competition.

For F-Zero, I  search the music how you find that of damdam for F-Zero X this can giving a good record on F-Zero SNES no?

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All Hail DarkShock!

Post by theonyxphoenix on Tue 26 May 2015 - 15:21

Rahzadan wrote:Thank you for this DarkShock!! Are you able to include an IPS for emulators to lower the volume as well?

This.  Great work to all involved.  Refreshing some of the greatest games ever made.

I love the MSU1 work but sometimes it takes away when you cannot hear the SFX on bsnes.


EDIT: The .ips link seems to be broken.

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Re: MSU-1 Secret of Mana

Post by emuandco on Tue 2 Jun 2015 - 7:16

Coooool  Very Happy I already went through YT and soundcloud in the past. Will check your tracks, maybe I have some good ones, and if not, EVEN better   Blue4  . Then we have another great MSU Patch  Blue4

EDIT: According to the video I might have some suggestions:

Menu music: https://soundcloud.com/ken-t-4/korg-m01d-secret-of-mana-menu
Angel's Fear: https://soundcloud.com/muikrad/darkium-vgm-secret-of-mana
Tell a Strange Tale: https://soundcloud.com/supradarky/secret-of-mana-precious-gold-gold-city-cover
A Wish: https://soundcloud.com/evilpickle-music-dept/frostforest (I prefer this one) OR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n17KC3JqnFE
Secret of the Arid Sands: https://spectrumofmana.bandcamp.com/track/arid-sands
Ceremony: https://spectrumofmana.bandcamp.com/track/pandoras-box
The Oracle: https://soundcloud.com/david-fantoni/secret-of-mana-the-oracle (I prefer yours though)
Did you See the Sea?: https://soundcloud.com/famimax/secret-of-mana-did-you-see-the-ocean-famimax-orchestral-mix
Eternal Recurrence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo9rq7Ci94A
Rose and Ghost: https://soundcloud.com/audionicmusic/secret-of-mana-phantom-and-a
I Won't Forget: https://soundcloud.com/jonathan-maderer/sad-theme-secreft-of-mana
Give Love its Rightful Time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF1GItshgg8
Meridian Dance: https://soundcloud.com/jonas-saal/secret-of-mana-meridian-dance-rockmetal-cover
The Holy Intruder: https://soundcloud.com/dj-matt-canon/secret-of-mana-mystic-invasion
Pure Land: https://soundcloud.com/mikel-altuna/secret-of-mana-instrumental-arrangement-pureland-v2
Spirit of the Night: https://soundcloud.com/davidgraey/secret-of-mana-spirit-of-the
Star of Darkness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBdTIokxCK4 OR https://soundcloud.com/michaelmarhal/the-dark-star-secret-of-mana (I prefer this one)
The Color of the Summer Sky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxTa84s19Do
The Wings No Longer Beat: https://soundcloud.com/jonathan-maderer/secret-of-mana-the-wings-no-longer-beat


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Re: MSU-1 Secret of Mana

Post by emuandco on Tue 2 Jun 2015 - 18:29

->MSU files<- from my suggestions if you wanna play with em. NOT looped yet, only increased to a good volume and silence trimmed.

EDIT: The enemy who likes to demand money with way more then 3 numerals in size for his hacks and waaay too much for modded OC carts is doing the same...
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Re: MSU-1 Secret of Mana

Post by DarkShock on Sun 21 Jun 2015 - 10:48

Colines wrote:Not sure if anyone already did that, but the music pack I downloaded had no loop at all built in the tracks, and when DarkShock requested a soul willing to do the task, I accepted the challenge.

Well, I hope the loop points be good enough, feel free to report any errors or even suggest better loop points ;D

http://1drv.ms/1Enkcfv

Sorry about the delay of my reply, life is a bit hectic these days.

But I got good news, I repacked your music pack into a single 7z file because I find Download All of OneDrive not reliable at all, I had to download each pcm individually.

Also, the 1.0 version of the ROM hack has been submitted to romhacking.net, link coming as soon it is up Smile
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Re: MSU-1 Secret of Mana

Post by Colines on Sun 21 Jun 2015 - 12:46

DarkShock wrote:I repacked your music pack into a single 7z file because I find Download All of OneDrive not reliable at all, I had to download each pcm individually.

Oh my, I'm really sorry.

kurrono already complained about that, so this is a strike 2. I will start to look for another host, since it's now proved this is being a problem for people.
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Re: MSU-1 Secret of Mana

Post by emuandco on Mon 22 Jun 2015 - 3:22

Nobody likes my suggestions? Crying or Very sad
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Re: MSU-1 Secret of Mana

Post by DarkShock on Mon 29 Jun 2015 - 23:19

IT'S ALIVE !

http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/2467/
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Re: MSU-1 Secret of Mana

Post by JackMonty on Tue 30 Jun 2015 - 6:57

WOW - this is excellent news!

I signed up to thank everyone involved in this. I've been looking to play through this again and this is just the excuse I needed.

Do you know if this is compatible with the Variable Width Font patch and the Proper-Caser patch also on Rom Hacking Net? I believe the Variable Width Font patch changes the rom size so not sure it that would mess things up.

If the MSU patch is compatible do you recommend a particular order when applying the patches?

Many Thanks


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Re: MSU-1 Secret of Mana

Post by Conn on Tue 30 Jun 2015 - 20:48

I reply on this in general... usually we release patches that work with the native rom. We cannot assure compatibility with other work. Every rom has unused space, which can be used for custom hacks. Of course it happens quite often that two hacks maintain the same free space, making the game crash in the end. Please do NOT ask us whether one hack is compatible with another (our lifes are busy enough - we will not have time to test which so ever hack by which so ever author for compatibility). Just try that yourself. If the game won't boot or crash it obviously isn't.

If the hacks come with a documentation (like DS made) you can also check whether the same free space is used.
Code:
// MSU code
seek($CB3400)
This means, DS used snes hirom cb3400 which is (lunar address) pc: 0b3400 (if you open the rom in a hex editor you will find a lot of FF there). If the other hacks use the same free space, they are incompatible.

One way to avoid this problem is to expand the rom (like your Variable Width Font author obviously did) - then the chances for collision on the same space are smaller.

One further warning: DS hack is for non-headered version while Variable Width Font is for headered rom. You need to add/remove the header prior to applying one of both hacks!
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Re: MSU-1 Secret of Mana

Post by JackMonty on Wed 1 Jul 2015 - 3:04

Hi Conn,

Thank you very much for the tips, I did manage to get all three patches working in combination. If anyone is interested here is what I did:

1. Applied a header to a original NTSC rom.
2. Applied the Variable Width Font patch (rom expanded to 3MB).
3. Applied the Proper-caser patch.
4. Removed the header.
5. Applied DarkShock's MSU1 patch.

Tested and working in BSNES 0.70 - I haven't tested against anything else.

Thanks again Conn my original problem was I didn't remove the header before applying Darkshock's patch!

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Re: MSU-1 Secret of Mana

Post by RedScorpion on Sat 11 Jul 2015 - 13:15

hi team,

thanks for this awesome project here.

The member wuchti from snes-projects reports that the savestate is gone when he start the msu version again?

Could you test it on sd2snes?!

thanks

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Re: MSU-1 Secret of Mana

Post by Conn on Sat 11 Jul 2015 - 13:41

Hej Red,

does he play on sd2snes? If yes, here's what he's doing wrong (smw related with switch palace):

Important note:
Problems with saving is a known issue with MSU-1 enhanced games on the SD2SNES.The game saves only with this technique your progress: In order to save permanently, you'll need to save after castle, switch..., and then either press L+R+Select+X or press and hold the reset button on your console long enough so that it resets to the SD2SNES main menu.


There's also a report on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yst28OiWUHw
Code:
Sounds nice though I think it's a bit loud compared to the sfx. Even the emulator patch was applied
I think this is a global volume problem of the pcm:s. For ALTTP the best values were FF for sd2snes, 60 for bsnes. Also in SMW, the overworld is too silent and the level too loud when playing on emulator. I hope Colines will update/fix this.
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Re: MSU-1 Secret of Mana

Post by DarkShock on Sun 12 Jul 2015 - 19:20

For the volume issue, byuu is aware of it, there's a thread on his forum about it but no proper solution has been found yet.

http://board.byuu.org/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=148

For simple games it's very simple to create a "emulator" patch with volume reduced but for Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger, the game sets specific volumes and do fade in/out with specific timing, this it's much more complicated.
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Re: MSU-1 Secret of Mana

Post by kurrono on Mon 13 Jul 2015 - 1:23

hey dark shock my master teacher i manage to hack top gear 1st track unto title screen ..omg ur tutorial is awesome.. i hope i get top gear 1st hacked completed soon... Very Happy
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Re: MSU-1 Secret of Mana

Post by Basara on Fri 14 Aug 2015 - 20:15

So Guys, I'm the new one, have a good time with me. I'm experimenting today the MSU-1 Patch with the german ROM of Secret of Mana. Hope that will work excellent.

edit: It's working fine for the first time. Will test it more. Very Happy
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