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Post by wizzrobemaster on Sat 17 Mar 2018 - 12:44

I presume chests in boss rooms are too difficult right? what about editing the ether medallion in agahnim's room? is that drop connected to the drop on death mountain or could that be edited to a blue rupee? karkat informed me that the reason that bug occurs is that the game reads there being a pendant/crystal, but i never understood why ether drops. it also happens in the gba port.

anyway i am going to check right now with the mini boss.

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Post by wizzrobemaster on Sat 17 Mar 2018 - 13:08

okay so one complication i encountered is that minibosses will not open the door when killed. ganon's tower must have a special code which is why it is not affected.

anyway lanmolas seems to have no problem when getting the pendant.

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Post by wizzrobemaster on Sat 17 Mar 2018 - 14:50

Now i need to add the mini boss fix because one complication i found with minibosses outside of ganon's tower was no triggered event such as shutter doors opening or chests appearing.
anyway puzz, can you use single entrance locations as dungeon identifications (e.g. the ice rod cave is treated as a remote section in the tower of hera) so that way you can use the mirror warp or will that cause issues? if it does work then would i need to disable the maps?

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Post by wizzrobemaster on Sat 17 Mar 2018 - 15:11

the boss chests i presume is too difficult to add so i will go with having shrines so would that be a batter alternative?

anyway karkat informed me the reason there is no drop in ganon's tower is because of a special coding.

that also explains why no items appear in boss rooms. now an unrelated question and this is by no means a request ( i can simply insert the magic refill asm, which i am surprised was never documented as an ips, but sucessfully wrote it in myself) but would the snes version have this conflict where trinexx and kholdstare drop magic bottles like they did in the gba port?

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Post by wizzrobemaster on Sat 17 Mar 2018 - 16:53

Okay so one thing I have noticed is that whenever I use HM the boss heart code is disabled until i repatch it.  

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Post by wizzrobemaster on Sat 17 Mar 2018 - 17:05

anyway puzz i forgot to say thank you. with the new patch i can now make some of the empty rooms more interesting by adding bosses in other rooms instead of the generic rupee room. unfortunately blind will not be possible and wart will be nerfed so one of the "shrines" will need to replicate a miniboss.

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Post by Conn on Sat 17 Mar 2018 - 17:05

If you indeed need a chest in a boss room you can adjust the code with a hijack hook (there was too little space in the code I sent):

Code:

; USE ON EXPANDED ROM (1.5 MB)
;asm to skip boss Heart Container drop, directly drops pendant/crystal

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org $05A07a
JSL freespace

org $05A539
JSL freespace

org $09EE53
JSL freespace

; freespace at 120000 can be adjusted
org $248000 ; rom address 0x120000
freespace:
lda $0403
ORA #$80
STA $0403
RTL



Corrected patch attached.

Then Wizz wrote a pm, I need to froward to you Puzz:
tested armos knights and lanmolas. pendant drops without a heart. mini bosses outside of ganon's tower however will no longer trigger room events.

Which mini bosses... are they affected by my code?


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Post by Conn on Sat 17 Mar 2018 - 18:03

Thanks, for this explanation Smile
So Wizz, follow Puzz explanation some posts above (step 1: press ctrl+g in a hex editor and search 0x10908, here change f0 to 80)
Then apply my patch (v2 posted above).
I noticed that the noHC code is also executed at the minibosses in Ganon's Tower, the Moldorm, which will leave a chest - it might be thus wiser to use the other asm I posted that implements free space. But if not, you need to kill him again to let the chest appear again, right Puzz?

Anyways, I do not understand what the problem with minibosses is, and what minibosses are? I played through complete Ganon's Tower, killing Armos Knights, Lamnolas and Moldorm and the room open trigger worked.
If you want the minibosses to drop heart containers, it might be good to put them in a reward chest on miniboss defeated and use the other asm that uses free rom space (so that you cannot collect HC again and again).

To implement it you need to use xkas, as I cannot give you an ips without knowing your rom (where you have free space left if you expanded it to how many MB and such).
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Post by wizzrobemaster on Sat 17 Mar 2018 - 18:47

That pm i sent you conn was before puzz sent me the instructions. anyway the issue i was having was probably a result of the wrong door.



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Post by wizzrobemaster on Sat 17 Mar 2018 - 21:24

i suspect the reason it was more difficult to implement a loose pendant/crystal in the next room is that the boss room is really one quadrant of the main room. in zelda 1 and the 8 bit hand held games, they are single rooms. also zelda1 has a one loose item per room so z3 is probably coded the same way which is why you cannot have more than 1 key in the same room. loose items that are commonly dropped by enemies are a different situation. anyway this was not a walk through shutter door.

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Post by wizzrobemaster on Sat 24 Mar 2018 - 9:13

Conn, when I fought Trinexx, the rom blacks out and crashes.  I think I found a bug from the patch. Kholdstare also freezes and "Vitreous" drops a large magic bottle that cannot be grabbed (but this does not seem to be a minor issue).

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Post by Conn on Sat 24 Mar 2018 - 9:57

The first version I posted bugged, did you try with the second version I posted above or the first version?

Correct patch:
noHC_v2.zip
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Post by wizzrobemaster on Sat 24 Mar 2018 - 10:11

It was the second version.

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Post by wizzrobemaster on Sat 24 Mar 2018 - 10:17

Blind also causes the game to freeze. the other bosses seem like they are fine but i have not tested helmasaur king with the new patch and Wart/Arrghus was without the fuzz, but the latter should not make a difference because the Trinexx mini-boss with only the main head still triggered the crash.

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Post by Conn on Sat 24 Mar 2018 - 12:02

Here's the culprit:

Code:



;asm to skip boss Heart Container drop, directly drops pendant/crystal

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org $05A078
LDA #$80
STA $0403
NOP

org $05A537
LDA #$80
STA $0403
NOP

org $09EE4f
LDA #$80
STA $0403
LDY #$0E
NOP   ; FORGOTTEN IN FIRST VERSION
Bottom second last line still needs the LDY #$0E

I only tested Trinexx, he at least works now. You need to test blind, Vitreous and so on as well yourself, if this fixes those as well.
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Post by wizzrobemaster on Sat 24 Mar 2018 - 13:16

It looks good so far Conn. Thanks for fixing the issue. Lol to "Here's the culprit:"

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Post by Conn on Sat 24 Mar 2018 - 14:00

Great to hear, I hope it serves your wishes now Wink
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