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Post by Floki Tue 12 Jul 2016 - 12:35

And...the Triforce Shrine is fully finished!

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^^Didn't felt like making a video of the wisdom path since it's only three rooms because I don't use overworld transitions.

You'll all get to play it soon enough anyway. Wink

Dungeons left to complete:
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(many bosses, bowser + ganon final boss)
^^will be linked to the mario bros 1 area and bowser bloody castle

***once wanted to have bowser as final boss, but will make it the sub-lieutenant of ganon instead, keeping ganon as real final boss, less messy that way***



(where you'll get the ice rod and the hidden path to ganon's hideout, hidden in the lost woods)
^^required if you want to get the ultra secret apple of eden ending, otherwise optional



(hardest puzzles and totally optional final pimped boss)
^^not much going here, as it's totally optional just like the Triforce Shrine and the Infinity Chambers...but will feature notes by us, the romhackers who made this hack possible!

After those are done, dungeons will be complete and ready to be playtested!!

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Post by Conn Tue 12 Jul 2016 - 13:10

When you release the beta, you maybe should also provide a spoiler walkthrough... I will not test the red thread of the game, and hate being stuck. I see my testing rather in a cheat supported gameplay (mostly due to time issues), with my most concerns and focus on bug sources (I usually know how to cause bugs, as I developed many codes and know how to trigger).

I leave the complete playtest with dungeon/item searching to Erock and others (who will hopefully not use your walkthrough), so they surely will tell you something about gamedesign, means at which point they are stuck. E.g., in your first beta it was quite difficult to find the next dungeon.
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Post by Floki Tue 12 Jul 2016 - 13:51

I'll record my whole testing playthrough. I'll obviously try to do a 100% playthrough given that I made the game. It will actually be possible to get all five endings using the same player slot...that's if you know the game.

It's possible to miss two endings and you'd need to do them in other slots in this case.

^^But don't think I'll do a full text walkthrough...will leave that job to a more dedicated fan!

With dungeon maps, overworld maps and the quest status which updates in the smartphone, you'll really have to be blind to not know where to go next!

Very Happy

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Post by Floki Tue 12 Jul 2016 - 14:05

QUEST STATUS EXAMPLES: (for the blind people Wink )
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After defeating agahnim1:
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I've defeated a boss
and the narrator teleported
me into a rather large castle.
Looks like they are many entrances
and paintings. I'll have to look
around to find where I
should go next!


After talking to the doctor:
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I've met a weird person
who calls himself ''The Doctor''.
He tells me I should try to find
the nine rings of power and
three identically shaped triangles
if I want to go home.
Let's look for those!
Narrator: Here's a hint... look
for a substation in a modern world!


After entering the substation:
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I made it into the 2nd dungeon
in the game. If the doctor was
right, there should be an
hidden ring of power in this
dungeon... let's look for it!


After getting the ring of power:
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I've found one of the nine rings of power!
Eight more to go! Now where is the next
dungeon? At anytime if I'm lost,
and after entering a dungeon,
I should look for the dungeon number
in the map screen. It always tell me
the dungeon number!

After entering the zora casino:
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I've found the next dungeon!
I'm getting good at this!!!
Alright there should be another
ring of power hidden in here.
Eight more to go.



etc....

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Post by Floki Tue 12 Jul 2016 - 14:49

FULL HEART CONTAINERS: (START THE GAME WITH FIVE FULL HEARTS)
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- Room 55 (Spencer Estate)
- Room 64 (Garden of Eden)
- Room 92 (Jedi Academy)
- Room 156 (Retro Land)


HEART PIECES:
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- Room 146 (Heart of the TARDIS)
- Room 176 (Heart of the TARDIS)
- Room 180 (Parallel Tower Ruins)
- Room 184 (Retro Land)
- Room 195 (Parallel Tower Ruins)
- Room 211 (Parallel Tower Ruins)
- Room 214 (Parallel Tower Ruins)
- Room 249 (Triforce Shrine)


THE FOUR BOTTLE LOCATIONS:
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- Room 39 (Spencer Estate) [tentman sprite]
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- Room 258 [inside a chest]


^^Ît's a good I started a database of those...as of right now only two bottle are set and only 11 hearts in total are collectable! I'll add many in overworlds and probably more in dungeons (with no maps) so it doesn't screw up already done dungeons maps!

Razz

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Post by Erockbrox Wed 13 Jul 2016 - 0:44

Was the tent man still going to be smoking a bong or joint and have that fire smoke look like smoke coming from a bong or joint.
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Post by Erockbrox Wed 13 Jul 2016 - 4:19

Also I had a request a while ago to make Conker "pee" in a urinal or toilet. Now that there is a toilet graphic in the game this is what I want.

Conker goes up to the toilet. The toilet actually has a hidden message tile on it. When Conker presses the read button a message shows up saying he took a pee and the *twinkle* sound effect happens. This twinkle sound effect is the same one that the magic powder bag item makes in the original game.

Do it.
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Post by Conn Wed 13 Jul 2016 - 9:04

impossible, erock... there needs to be a special tile inserted (like swimming, digging, etc.). There's no place for such a thing. Much asm for almost no effect
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Post by Erockbrox Wed 13 Jul 2016 - 12:02

Wait. My idea has no asm at all. U hide a message tile on the toilet. The message tile shows a text message saying that conker is peeing. While the text is being shown you can play sound effects. And I just want the magic dust sprinkle sound effect to play because it sounds like taking a tinkle in the toilet. No asm at all.
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Post by Conn Wed 13 Jul 2016 - 13:09

I see... I thought you wanted Conker sitting on the toilett or such. Well then, SePH surely can do that I guess Wink

Cool idea!
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Post by Floki Wed 13 Jul 2016 - 14:57

Sure thing Erock, I'll see what I can do to make your wizz wishes come true. But my vacation's over now, back to work tomorrow so things should cool off for a while.

^^My overworlds are 100% graphically wise, I don't want to touch another overworld tileset ever.

I'll add sprites/items/holes/new paths for lost woods areas and that's about it.

^^Then focus on dungeons, monologue, msu-1 etc...

...(cry)...

Now off to some **Bates Motel**

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Post by Erockbrox Wed 13 Jul 2016 - 17:02

Meth wrote:Sure thing Erock, I'll see what I can do to make your wizz wishes come true

Just hearing this got me so excited that I almost wizzed in my pants!
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Post by Erockbrox Wed 13 Jul 2016 - 23:05

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Post by Floki Fri 15 Jul 2016 - 9:45

Will probably release the beta at the end of august.

Not much left to do. So final game might be in october.

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Post by Floki Fri 15 Jul 2016 - 10:07

I'll focus my full week of vacation in the first week of september for the beta, fixing bugs, takin' in suggestions and helping people out if they are stuck. Will probably take my november vacation to go back in either Cuba or Republica Dominicana, so I fully hope to have finished the game by that time, so when I come back I have my mind clear out of that game.

So be ready when the beta hits, I won't wait for people who aren't ready by that time...there's more then twenty people who will get access to it, enough people. More than enough to make this game suitable for everybody.


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Post by Erockbrox Sat 16 Jul 2016 - 1:12

Well well, the big day will be here at last. Seph you freaking did it. You are the only crazy person mad enough to spend 12 years hacking this god forbidden game.

Lets hope that all of our work was worth it and that we created something special. Hope it lives up to the hype.

Expect to see a list from me of what I think is good and what needs improving on.

Also my artist guy has not responded to me. I need to give him another e-mail.
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Post by Floki Sat 16 Jul 2016 - 7:22

Yep this is it. Fifteen years of hacking this game is well enough.

It the end of the line, the light at the end of the tunnel!

Might finish the remaining dungeons during my three days weekend, who knows...dungeons editing is much faster than overworlds editing.

So dungeons this week, monologue next week, asm tasks after that, beginning next month msu-1, then I begin my own playtests at the job on my psp and then once I'm sure I didn't forgot anything, beta will be released!

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Post by Floki Sat 16 Jul 2016 - 7:26

All blocks moving puzzles, the hard ones that is, will all be moved inside his folder in the dev's hideout...I don't want anyone to get stuck on those for hours, so most dungeons will be on par with Alttp difficulty!

One hack to rule them all with a difficulty for just anyone!

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Post by Floki Mon 18 Jul 2016 - 21:48



LMAO!

Love that reaction! Laughing

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Post by Mr.x Mon 18 Jul 2016 - 23:00

SePH wrote:Will probably release the beta at the end of august.

Not much left to do. So final game might be in october.
Can't wait to get rid of the game, eh? Don't blame you!

Due to the beta and final coming out very soon, we should probably sort out the MSU-1 soundtrack because I don't know what it is currently. When you have time SePH, could you provide me the spreadsheet of the soundtrack? I'm sure you are busy, no pressure.

Mr.x
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Post by Floki Mon 18 Jul 2016 - 23:48

Yeah, that game is taking way too long, I want it out of my life for good! Although I'm sure I'll still see videos of people playing it for the next decade to come Razz

Sure thing. As soon as I'm done with my zsnes playtest, I'll do a bsnes playtest and sort the msu-1 out! I'm finalizing the dungeons as we speak while playtesting the game. Still a bunch of stuff to do, but I'm starting to really see that light at the end of the tunnel and it gives me the shivers really. Really amazed at how far this hack went!

A have a bunch of tables to manage and msu-1 is part of that.

- 11AE00 - Native themes (Part2)

04 04 02 02 0B 0D 0D 04
04 04 02 02 0D 0D 04 04
04 0B 02 07 07 07 02 04
05 03 02 07 07 07 02 02
03 03 03 02 02 04 02 02
03 03 02 02 02 02 02 02
09 09 04 04 04 02 02 05
09 09 07 04 04 02 02 0A


- 11A300 - Native themes (Part3)

04 04 02 02 0B 0D 0D 04
04 04 02 02 0D 0D 04 04
04 0B 02 07 07 07 02 04
05 03 02 07 07 07 02 02
03 03 03 02 02 04 02 02
03 03 02 02 02 02 02 02
09 09 04 04 04 02 02 05
09 09 07 04 04 02 02 0A


- 11AF00 - MSU-1 themes (Part2)

4D 4C 4B 4E 2F 0D 0D 48
4D 4C 4B 4E 0D 0D 44 41
4D 4A 4F 29 29 29 2E 42
3D 51 4F 29 29 29 2E 2C
51 51 51 02 02 2A 2D 2C
3F 3F 2B 02 02 28 28 2C
2B 2B 52 47 45 28 28 3E
2B 2B 49 46 45 40 40 30


- 11A400 -  MSU-1 themes (Part3)

4D 4C 4B 4E 2F 0D 0D 48
4D 4C 4B 4E 0D 0D 44 41
4D 4A 4F 29 29 29 2E 42
3D 07 4F 29 29 29 2E 2C
07 07 07 02 02 2A 2D 2C
3F 3F 2B 02 02 28 28 2C
2B 2B 52 47 45 28 28 3E
2B 2B 49 46 45 40 40 30

^^Just tried bsnes for the first time since ''forever'' and I'll have to fix my tables accordingly to the msu-1 themes, so I'll also tell you which is what once I'm doing my 2nd playthrough with bsnes this time ;-)

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Post by Floki Thu 21 Jul 2016 - 2:45

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My current playtesting made me finally add the crossbow graphics which were still using the original bow graphics!

I also fixed more than a hundred of bugs....literally.

Currently fixing the clothes for all the sprites when you get the red and green tunics.

^^Not many stuff left. I'll continue my playthrough this week after the job. Time to go sleep three hours before work :-P

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Post by Floki Fri 22 Jul 2016 - 1:12

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MISSING ITEMS TO ADD:
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NO LIFT4???

NO ARMOR3??? HIDE IT IN UNDERVERSE (GANON PAINTING) NEED ALL THE KEYS!

NO TARDIS KEY??? ----HIDE IT IN HEART OF THE TARDIS ----60SECONDS PUZZLE!

EIGHT HEART PIECES BY DIGGING
FIVE RANDOM HEART PIECES HIDDEN IN DUNGEONS AND OVERWORLDS
ONE FULL HEART CONTAINER
^^and then all twenty hearts will be collectable (still need to edit the monologue into DNA shards)



^^Getting there!! Missing five rings to go grab the red lightsaber, but first I'll go try the first two endings before I open the batcave.

But first will need to add the new flute locations (you were right conn, the magic harp that I grab using the three triforce pieces is indeed the golden one, so no debugging needed here!

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...But first...I'll go to sleep, work, eat, work, come back, same routine, work at home on the hack etc...etc... 

Aside the bugs I posted in that other thread, the hack is really stable now, enough to finish the game I believe...hopefully if ganon works because last time he freezed, but I'm sure puzz could help debugging him here if thats the case.

Very Happy

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Post by Erockbrox Fri 22 Jul 2016 - 2:53

The most extensive zelda 3 hack ever! Keep up the great progress.
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Post by Floki Fri 22 Jul 2016 - 14:18

Thank you my number one fan. I WILL!!!

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