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Post by qwertymodo on Wed 16 Aug 2017 - 17:10

Ok, I updated the Chrono Trigger listing in the database. I left a link to DarkShock's version in addition to my own, but removed Ramsis' since it's basically redundant now.
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Re: Chrono Trigger MSU-1

Post by thepsynergist on Wed 16 Aug 2017 - 17:38

I've been curious about this for a while, however, I was unsure if it was possible or not.

Is it possible to make it so that the second unused battle theme can play if Chrono isn't in your party? My thought was that, since it never got an official use, it'd be cool to use it after the event when Chrono leaves your party, as a way to signify a turning point in the game.

I realize that'd require hacking the rom to allow a check for that, but I was just curious if it was possible.
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Post by Conn on Wed 16 Aug 2017 - 17:52

Thanks for the update and the new audio link, that was really necessary Smile

As said frequently, I also want to keep my promise of retiring (wasn't quite successful until now I know Razz ), however therefore a small request: could you please keep track of the database and update it whenever there are news, like finished projects (add  your Mario kart in racing, sf2 to beat em up section when the msu files.are finished, repair broken links, etc... it's the most complete database in the web I think Very Happy thanks!
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Re: Chrono Trigger MSU-1

Post by qwertymodo on Wed 16 Aug 2017 - 18:08

I'll try, but I'm not very good at keeping up with other people's work. I will definitely be around to make edits/additions if other people bring them to my attention though.
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Post by Ramsis on Wed 23 Aug 2017 - 14:52

qwertymodo wrote:I left a link to DarkShock's version in addition to my own, but removed Ramsis' since it's basically redundant now.
Huh? No, you were just too lazy to provide an accurate description for each version for posterity, but whatever.

Then again, the bszelda.zeldalegends.net website has been a horrible mess forever too, so why even care? ... Very Happy

Ugh ... no, I'm not wording what I'm thinking of this place right now. Sad
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Re: Chrono Trigger MSU-1

Post by qwertymodo on Wed 23 Aug 2017 - 14:58

qwertymodo wrote:Huh? No, you were just too lazy to provide an accurate description for each version for posterity, but whatever.

You're absolutely right, I was feeling lazy that day. Reading over what I wrote, it does kinda come off poorly... sorry about that. If you'd like to provide your own description, I'd be happy to add it to the post.
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Re: Chrono Trigger MSU-1

Post by qwertymodo on Wed 23 Aug 2017 - 15:12

If my memory serves, the full list of CT MSU-1 hacks, is:

1) smkdan's 21FX hack
2) DarkShock's audio-only hack
3) Ramsis' MSU-1 update to #1
4) qwertymodo's combination of #2 + #3
5) qwertymodo's audio+FMV rewrite (current WIP)

#1 won't be listed here, as no current emulators support it (unless one of the myriad of bsnes forks out there might).  I'm not even sure if it can even be downloaded anymore.

#4 won't be listed, as I consider #5 a direct successor.  This is what I was really referring to when I called it redundant.  I realize now that really didn't come across.

#3 can be added to the list.
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Re: Chrono Trigger MSU-1

Post by qwertymodo on Mon 28 Aug 2017 - 20:06

@Ramsis, I've updated the Chrono Trigger entry in the DB. If anybody is unhappy with the wording of the descriptions, I'm more than happy to edit it again accordingly.
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Re: Chrono Trigger MSU-1

Post by Conn on Tue 29 Aug 2017 - 3:49

Huh? No, you were just too lazy to provide an accurate description for each version for posterity, but whatever.

Then again, the bszelda.zeldalegends.net website has been a horrible mess forever too, so why even care? ... Very Happy

Ugh ... no, I'm not wording what I'm thinking of this place right now. Sad
mh, I noticed your provoking behaviour already in the past... it is not helpful.
you have a problem with this page, bszelda or whatever? fine. no need for you to linger here then Wink
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Re: Chrono Trigger MSU-1

Post by Ramsis on Fri 15 Sep 2017 - 17:32

@qwertymodo
Thanks for your efforts! Very Happy

Conn wrote:mh, I noticed your provoking behaviour already in the past...
Congrats! But no sorry, I won't give in to your implicit allegations but instead continue to call people like you out whenever and wherever I see them.

Conn wrote:it is not helpful.
Exactly, your being provocative and hostile towards me without any gdmn reason hasn't been helpful at all in this discussion so far, let alone in the MSU-1 dev community.

Conn wrote:you have a problem with this page, bszelda or whatever?
No, I have a problem with your treating MSU-1 projects out of your scope, and after learning about them, bitching about how those projects should have followed your time table/agenda, instead of appreciating even once the past (smkdan's "21fx" Chrono Trigger hack should ring a bell) and/or later enhancements (of said 21fx hack). Sad

Conn wrote:fine. no need for you to linger here then Wink
Right.

You are so full of yourself that I have no reason to "linger" here any more ... and don't worry: I won't. Unless you trigger me again, that is (good luck though). Very Happy
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Re: Chrono Trigger MSU-1

Post by Conn on Fri 15 Sep 2017 - 20:23

ok, since I have some interest in learning about other peoples' synaptical processings, I tried to retrace what happened.
https://forum.snesfreaks.com/viewtopic.php?t=15487&p=263694
https://forum.snesfreaks.com/viewtopic.php?f=157&t=14520&start=30

That is 2? years ago. A simple misunderstanding from my side; I thought you and DarkShock made parallel an equal msu1 hack for chrono trigger, therefore I thought it would be better if work and resources are shared, so one hacks this game and another that game instead making two versions of the same game.
I was wrong, you cleared it up that both patches are completely different. So, all good, case was closed for me. Since you for unknown reason took that as personal affront (which it clearly wasn't!), my apologies that I got it wrong!

I however cannot retrace why you justify this to show your disrespectful behaviour here. I do not think this here is a place where you can solve your personal problems. I think, when reading your posts at other forums that you can be a nice guy, but with this behaviour you show, this forum is really no place for you. At least I have other things on my mind, and your problems are not mine.
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